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IETF-100 homenet minutes

Session 2017-11-13 1550-1720: Collyer - Audio stream - homenet chatroom

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          IETF 100 - Homenet Agenda
          
          Monday, November 13th, 2017
          15:50-17:20 Afternoon session II
          Collyer
          
          0. Administrivia (5m)
          
          Blue Sheets
          Note taker - Wicinski, Tim
          Jabber relay - Mikael Abrahamsson
          
          1. WG Status Update - Chairs (5m)
          
          Ray Bellis' last meeting as chair!
          Thanks Ray
          
          Updated Drafts:
          
          - draft-ietf-homenet-babel-profile-03 (in WGLC through November 17)
          - draft-ietf-homenet-simple-homenet-naming-00
          
          Other Drafts:
          
          - draft-ietf-homenet-dot-14 (in editor’s queue)
          
          Expired drafts:
          
          - draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation-05   2016-08-15
          Expired
          - draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-bis-00   2016-07-08   Expired
          - draft-ietf-homenet-hybrid-proxy-zeroconf-02   2015-10-15   Expired
          - draft-ietf-homenet-naming-architecture-dhc-options-04   2016-08-15
          Expired
          - draft-ietf-homenet-routing-consensus-call-01   2016-01-21   Expired
          - draft-lemon-homenet-naming-architecture-01   2016-07-08   Expired
          
          2. Support for HNCP in IPv6 CE routers (Jordi Palet Martinez, 20m)
          
          - based loosely on draft-palet-v6ops-rfc7084-bis-transition-01
          
          https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-homenet-support-for-hncp-in-ipv6-ce-routers/
          
          
          Ted Lemon(TL): ISP model vs Homenet Router model, they want to manage
          the homenet.
          
          Hans Liu(HL): No homenet deployment. Can fetch openwrt, but not enough.
          
          Mikael Abrahamsson(MA): Those two cases are too simplified or needs more
          qualification. ISPs in Europe and GDPR (the EU General Data Protection
          Regulation) can
          only pull certain things.
          
          Pierre Pfister(PP): use case - two providers, each with box, plug them
          together.
          
          Ran Atkinson(RA): reduce customer support calls, want to control their
          box.
          
          MA: If CableLabs, etc not talking about this, will not get deployed.
          
          Barbara Stark(BS): not recommend focusing on ISP model. focus on
          individual model.
          
          David S: We can't touch the ISP Router
          
          3. Naming Architecture and Service Discovery
          
          - draft-ietf-homenet-simple-homenet-naming-00  (Ted Lemon, 20m)
          
          https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-homenet-naming/
          
          
          Andrew Sullivan(AJS): Bigger Worry is significant gaps (DNSSEC, etc). WG
          needs to decide on punting work.
          
          
          Stuart Cheshire(SC): WG did not want to tackle the more complicated work.
          
          BS: [To Ted] What sort of participation do you want?
          
          TL: Implementers; Text in Document;
          
          The following people volunteered to review the doc and send comments to
          the list:
          Ray
          Barbara
          Jordi
          AJS
          Tim
          
          4. Security (Ted Lemon, 30m)
          
          - draft-lemon-homenet-babel-security-latest-00
          - include discussion of more general homenet security
          
          https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-homenet-homenet-security/
          
          
          DS: Interest on this on the Babel side. babel-bis moving to standards
          track.
          
          Juliusz C(JC): [channeled by Mikael via jabber] Does not coincide with
          the babel group.
          
          Lots of documents to write
          
          SC: Security w/out relying on root PKI
          
          DS: Babel people want security. current Babel RFC not best place to
          mandate it.
          
          JS: Babel meeting is Friday, giving Babel Security presentation.
          
          Terry Manderson:  Security is a milestone in Homenet.  Really needs to
          be there.
          
          BS: Security is important. No CA I trust to say what can be on my home
          net, or vouch for identity of what is on my homenet.
          
          AJS: Worry is bunch of people in room who do complicated things, but
          want plug-in-and-work magic. Prerequisite is principles document.
          
          MA:
          
          DS: Maybe take step back and take requirements on trust establishment.
          Willing to help.
          
          BS: There is interest.
          
          5. Other (TBD, 10m)
          
          



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